Not once did I mention handguns, so yes, every mention of them by you is irrelevant. I may not know as many gun models as you, but I’m pretty sure the scary looking black gun in that picture is not a handgun. And so, since you specifically mentioned “walking down the street”, unless you literally walk down the street with your loaded semiautomatic rifle, that point you made? Not relevant. Moving on.
I have NO problem with handguns or shotguns for home/self protection. But a semiautomatic rifle - be it an AR15 or any of the equally deadly, nonscary, nonblack rifles that most anti-gun people have never heard of - is not needed by anyone. It’s just not. 25 men are not going to storm your house. Sorry, you can be black as the darkest of Jamaicans and have gay sex on your front lawn, and it still won’t happen. A couple handguns and/or a shotgun, even one for each adult of the house, are all you need.
Why does “need” matter?
Because an assault rifle is designed for one thing, and one thing only: mass killing. Note, I didn’t say mass murder, I said mass killing. I understand and respect the distinction. A semiautomatic rifle has the sole function of being able to send a lot of rounds downrange quickly, and without the need of reloading.
You absolutely do not need that.
And the problem is, every gun owner thinks THEY store guns securely, THEY are responsible, that THEY aren’t like the parents with kids who shoot themselves with their parents guns, that no gun THEY bought will ever be used for evil. Adam Lanza’s mother sure as hell never thought that. But it happens. And the problem with that is, if the Adam Lanzas of the world steal a handgun, that’s one or two people dead, and a few others injured, probably walking away. A stolen semiautomatic rifle with a 30 round magazine or a 60 round drum is a recipe for mass murder.
Most gun crimes do indeed involve handguns, and are indeed gang related. This is because, unless this is Eskimo gang violence, it’s pretty hard to conceal anything bigger than a handgun. I respect the fact that we will never stop the crime of murder, and I respect the fact that people who want to kill other people will always find a tool to do it with. Based on that, in our efforts to curtail gun violence, what should we go after? Handguns, which are generally used by gangs to kill other gangs? Or semiautomatic rifles, which are generally used by messed up white men to shoot as many people as the laws of physics allow? I’ll go with option B, Regis.
We generally do not allow people to have fully automatic weapons without a crapton of paperwork that the average person can’t hope to pass. We generally do not allow people to have flamethrowers, grenades, rocket launchers, or drones loaded with fucking carpet bombs. The reason for this is, yes, even if you personally are totally responsible and could be trusted with your own tactical nuclear silo, most people are just not. And at the end of the day, I’m sorry: the risk to YOUR life for not owning a minigun do not trump the risk to the lives of everyone around you for owning one.
That’s in florida. You’ll notice some of the people in this video have semi automatic rifles.
Now let me move over to personal experience because I don’t think you really understand what you’re talking about. And you’ll see why i’m saying this stuff later on in the post.
I spent a week in the field with this guy who joined the Army to get out of the hood.He was involved in gang violence, drug trafficking, Weapons trafficking. He wanted to get out of it all before he got in too deep.
Let me give you a link to a video of a gun and then tell you the STREET price of that gun as well as the legal price. First we’ll start off with ones that need no video.
AR-15, common prices range from 600 to 1300 dollars legally. + Background check + possible waiting period + Possible firearms license + thousands of other laws governing gun ownership
Street price: around 200 dollars.
Semi Automatic Kalashnikov pattern rifle (AK47 because I know you dont know what i’m talking about.) Legal price: 500-800 dollars + Background check + possible waiting period + Possible firearms license + thousands of other laws governing gun ownership
Street price: Around 100 dollars.
Street Price: 250 dollars (not legal for civilians without thousands of dollars of JUST paperwork)
Street price: 160 dollars (VERY difficult for civilians to own)
Street Price: This guy literally found it in a dumpster. (very difficult for civilians to own legally)
When the criminals have more firepower than I do? I think that may be a bit of a problem in America. Whether the criminal has a shotgun, pistol or some fucking full auto rifle he got off of a cargo ship in New Orleans that came from South America… I WILL have the ability to outgun him every time and people like YOU will not prevent me from being able to do that.
It’s not about 25 guys. It’s about 2 or 3 guys ALL armed coming at just 1 of me. There is a difference in Man power and firepower. And this is what I was taught in the Army. We fight 3 to 1 odds FIREPOWER wise. Meaning if I have an M249 Light Machine Gun, I’m good for about 2-3 guys, an M4 is good for 1 and an M203 is good for a couple. so 3 guys have the firepower of approximately 7 or 8 guys.
The same works in the civilian world only on a different scale. A semi automatic rifle would be good for about 3-5 guys or more while a pistol may only be good for 1 or 2 if the other guys are armed.
A good example of this: The Bank of America shootout in California.
If criminals are driving around with fully automatic weapons in their cars that they get for a few hundred bucks from their local crack dealer. You bet your ASS i’m going to go through the proper legal channels to own my semi automatic Bulgarian AK74 that cost me 900 dollars. Because I WILL NOT BE OUT GUNNED because unlike you and people like you. I VALUE my life and the lives of my friends and family. I will not lay on my ass and allow these degenerate fuck stains to shoot at and possibly kill me, my friends or my family.
That’s called basic survival instinct. And you are all clearly lacking that.
So fuck pistols for home defense, fuck shotguns too. A semi automatic rifle is literally the best option for home defense. The only reason I dont carry a rifle around on my back is because it’s not comfortable and it’s not practical because of how cumbersome it is.
However, if a law abiding citizen like myself WERE to choose to do that, then that’s THEIR right. sure it’s pointless and stupid as an every day carry option. But it’s effective as fuck, you cant argue that.
You don’t get to decide what I do and do not “need” because we both grew up in different circumstances and we both live in different worlds.
How many people died in Newtown? 28 right? including the shooter?
What about virginia tech? 33 killed including the shooter and 17 injured by gunfire… What weapon did the VT shooter use?
A glock 19 9mm pistol and a Walther P22 .22 caliber pistol. Not a SINGLE rifle.
Ft. Hood shooting- 13 dead, 30+ wounded… weapons… 2 pistols…
Washington Naval yard: 13 dead 3 wounded from gunfire, a shotgun and a pistol
Columbine: 15 dead, 21 wounded, 1 pistol, 2 shotguns, 1 pistol caliber rifle (same magazine capacity and same ammunition as a pistol), 4 knives and explosives… happened during the “assault weapons ban”
Oklahoma City: 168 dead, 680+ wounded… not a single gun used.
But yeah… most mass killings are with scary black rifles right?
Also- Nice to know you don’t care about the impoverished innocent families living in bad neighborhoods who are gunned down by accident due to gang violence. But a couple white people get shot and suddenly you want to take action?
Why are you so vehemently going after rifles when handguns kill SO MANY MORE people per year?
It makes no fucking sense.
Let’s say there is a car on the road with bad brakes… and tens of thousands of low income minority people a year are dying because of this 1 car… but some other time in the year, 1 DIFFERENT car gets in a car accident and kills a bunch of rich white people….
You want to go after the drivers of the second car right?
Fuck the tens of thousands of innocent lives lost due to the other car that is KNOWN to cause problems.
Let’s go after THIS ONE car.
You people lack the most BASIC critical thinking skills.
I want to talk about pistols, you want to talk about nukes and miniguns,
Ok I’m fucking done with you. You have the mental capacity of a 10 year old and the gun knowledge of Dianne Feinstein.
May god have mercy on your soul and please dont pollute the gene pool.